. >> the obama campaign is slipping because is he talking about smaller and smaller things. despite the fact that america has the huge challenges and that's why on november 6th i'm counting on ohio to count for big change. >> so what are ohio voters saying? what are they thinking? joining us is former ohio secretary of state ken blackwell. good morning, ken, how are you? >> good morning, peter. doing just fine, thank you. >> great. we know how important ohio is, 18 electoral votes. seven most in the country. back in october, early october, some folks at nbc said you know maybe the romney campaign should get out of ohio. but now things seem to be neck and neck in your state. what are folks thinking there? >> it's a dead even race here in ohio. romney has closed what was a month ago an 8 or 9 point gap. and he has done it by really taking away the president's advantage with women. and as a consequence, this is a race that will be decided on as governor ron any says, big issues, not just small ball that obama is playing with. and, peter, i can tell you the benghazi issue is pla